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How can objectivists know they are right? What is the process to correctly say that something is true and something isn't? I mean how is it that objectivism has the truth and others don't? I got asked all of this questions by a friend. And after trying to explain him of the integration of knowledge without contradictions and that reality is reality, I can't seem to reach him. Eventually he will say something like "but that's only what you believe, by your own premises" and saying that everything he believes it's true by his own premises.

Can someone explain me in detail how does this process of knowing reality is done? It would be really helpful. Maybe I won't be able to convince my friend but it would be good to really undertake the process.

asked Dec 13 '12 at 11:48

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Juan Diego dAnconia

edited Dec 13 '12 at 11:53

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I suppose it depends on what it is you are trying to convince him of. If you are trying to convince him that a bat is hard, hit him with it. If you are trying to convince him that Kenseyian economics don't work then that is far more complicated. If you are trying to convince him that mysticism has no rational basis, don't, instead ask him to convince you that it does. If he can't understand that knowledge is only valid (i.e. true) if observable by him - otherwise it is just theory - then stop trying to reach him because he refuses to understand.

(Dec 13 '12 at 15:28) MarcMercier ♦ MarcMercier's gravatar image

Also, Objectivists aren't "right" they merely try to determine what is right/true by observing reality.

(Dec 13 '12 at 15:30) MarcMercier ♦ MarcMercier's gravatar image

It sounds like the friend does not accept the existence of an objective reality, by reference to which one can determine what is true and what is not. If so, then he does not accept the concept of "proof," either, and he is asking the questioner for proof only as a means of goading the questioner into undercutting the questioner's own worldview. Don't expect to be able to convince the friend of anything unless and until the friend accepts the existence of objective reality. The friend might say, "Reality? What's that? Whose 'reality'?" He has free will. If that's what he wants to believe, don't help him to avoid the consequences that his defiance of reality will have for him. If he's open to an explanation of metaphysical axioms and their validation, there might be hope for him.

For an introduction to metaphysical axioms, refer to the topics of "Axioms" and "Axiomatic Concepts" in The Ayn Rand Lexicon.

answered Dec 13 '12 at 15:58

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