Base on the quote below:
I'm going to assume the answer is no.
You're right Humbug, I am getting the two confused. Here are a few quotes from the lexicon I found useful in this issue and I think help clear up the question. They are said better than I can say it, so here are the direct quotes:
"[The] underscoring of primary facts is one of the crucial epistemological functions of axiomatic concepts. It is also the reason why they can be translated into a statement only in the form of a repetition (as a base and a reminder): Existence exists—Consciousness is conscious—A is A. (This converts axiomatic concepts into formal axioms.)"
"Since axiomatic concepts refer to facts of reality and are not a matter of “faith” or of man’s arbitrary choice, there is a way to ascertain whether a given concept is axiomatic or not: one ascertains it by observing the fact that an axiomatic concept cannot be escaped, that it is implicit in all knowledge, that it has to be accepted and used even in the process of any attempt to deny it.
For instance, when modern philosophers declare that axioms are a matter of arbitrary choice, and proceed to choose complex, derivative concepts as the alleged axioms of their alleged reasoning, one can observe that their statements imply and depend on “existence,” “consciousness,” “identity,” which they profess to negate, but which are smuggled into their arguments in the form of unacknowledged, “stolen” concepts.
It is worth noting, at this point, that what the enemies of reason seem to know, but its alleged defenders have not discovered, is the fact that axiomatic concepts are the guardians of man’s mind and the foundation of reason—the keystone, touchstone and hallmark of reason—and if reason is to be destroyed, it is axiomatic concepts that have to be destroyed."
Here also is the hyperlink for where you can find and read these and others in depth: http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/axiomatic_concepts.html
What I think is meant by "the base of axioms are axiomatic concepts" is that prior to the statement/axiom "Existence exists" one must have a concept of existence. That is, they must be aware that things exist, formulate the concepts via conscious thought and understand that they are axiomatic concepts, that all other knowledge rests upon those concepts. Once this is understood, once you have formualted the axiomatic concept of existence, you can make the statement; "Existence exists" with confidence and know that that statement is an axiom based on axiomatic concepts. Where as, should you choose not to believe what is in front of you, or to dispense with the concept as useless because it is given, you could never be confident in what you know, how you know it and how to apply it to a wider spectrum of ideas.
Thanks for challenging my earlier statement, it would seem my epistemology and metaphysics are a little rusty.
answered Jun 22 '12 at 20:41