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What kinds of signposts should I look for to know it is time to quit working with "Tea Parties"?

asked Jan 08 '11 at 11:02

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To expand upon c_andrew's point, the Tea Party movement will not be worth the support of Objectivists if it becomes captive to the statist pathologies of the conservatives, including the following:

  • Acquiescence to the interests of the Republican Party establishment.
  • Open support for the Christian Nation mythology, creationism in public schools, or religion in the political sphere in general. (Having serious religionists in the movement isn't necessarily a problem, so long as they do not try to make the Tea Party into a vehicle for their religion.)
  • "Social issues" regulation regarding abortion, divorce, homosexuality, pornography, etc.
  • Economic protectionism, including anti-immigration labor protectionism.
  • "National greatness conservatism" in the style of John McCain and the neoconservatives.
  • Even worse fringe ideas, such as grand conspiracy theories, racism, secession or Confederate romanticism, anti-banking hysteria, vigilantism, and probably many others.

answered Jan 10 '11 at 20:01

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How many of the items in the list (one, two, three, four) would justify parting company with the Tea Party? Tea Party Patriots is having their National Policy Summit (Feb 25-27) in Arizona partly to show support for that states stance on illegal immigration and partly because it is warm. The main focus still appears to be on Limited Government, Lowering Taxes and Free Markets.

(Jan 20 '11 at 22:16) Prometheus1 ♦ Prometheus1's gravatar image

In general, I would say that the line is crossed if an outside observer could reasonably think that a local Tea Party group (they're not centrally organized right now) is a vehicle for conservatism or Republicans in general, with individual rights being contradicted or overshadowed by conservative pet issues.

Immigration is a complicated issue, because there are legitimate concerns regarding crime spilling over from an increasingly lawless Mexico. That's why I wrote labor protectionism to identify a particularly bad reason for being anti-immigration.

(Jan 20 '11 at 22:34) Andrew Dalton ♦ Andrew%20Dalton's gravatar image

I have searched the internet for your "Labor Protectionism" piece to no avail. Could you send me a link so that I can read it?

(Jan 22 '11 at 06:13) Prometheus1 ♦ Prometheus1's gravatar image

There is no single "labor protectionism piece." For an example of this term being used, look here: http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2010/08/113_42010.html

(Jan 22 '11 at 10:34) Andrew Dalton ♦ Andrew%20Dalton's gravatar image
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When they began working to increase the instances of illegitimate government action instead of decrease them.

answered Jan 08 '11 at 16:10

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