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There seems to be a contradiction in our laws allowing abortion but also punishing attempted murder of unborn fetuses.

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asked Oct 18 '12 at 14:47

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edited Oct 18 '12 at 14:50

In short, no. However, the harming of a fetus almost always harms the mother, and so such an initiation of force would fall under assault. But should someone be charged for murder for forcefully stoping the gestation of a fetus? No. They should be charged with someone else that fits the context of the crime.

(Oct 18 '12 at 15:09) JK Gregg ♦ JK%20Gregg's gravatar image

The answer, of course, depends on whether or not the abortion is a murder. If yes, then yes; if no, then no. (So the real question is when, if ever, is abortion murder?)

(Oct 18 '12 at 15:33) Greg Perkins ♦♦ Greg%20Perkins's gravatar image

It's not a contradiction if a lawful abortion is viewed as a form of justifiable homicide.

Of course, such a view depends on the view that termination of the life of a fetus (at least at some stage of development) is a homicide, which depends on the view that a fetus is (at least at some stage of development) a human. But even if one doesn't agree with that view, I don't think it's appropriate to say that it is a contradiction.

Anyway, not all homicide is murder. Not all homicide is even punishable as a crime.

(Oct 18 '12 at 19:28) anthony anthony's gravatar image

Under California law, murder is "the unlawful killing of a human being, or a fetus, with malice aforethought." Then they go on to exempt certain abortions.

http://codes.lp.findlaw.com/cacode/PEN/3/1/8/1/s187

(Oct 18 '12 at 20:18) anthony anthony's gravatar image

I thought ALL fetuses are "unborn!"

LOL.

Anthony thank you for the link to to CA law. I had previously heard that CA had such "killing a fetus is murder" statutes, making an exception for a voluntary abortion.

(Dec 05 '12 at 20:56) Louise Louise's gravatar image
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I don't see the alleged contradiction. Prior to birth the fetus is logically and structurally part of the mother's body. Attempting to destroy it without her consent is obviously criminal assault, in much the same way that trying to chop off a limb would be. Such attempts should be punished.

If the law treats such actions as murder there would be a much better case for a contradiction.

answered Dec 05 '12 at 19:08

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The law (in some jurisdictions) does treat such actions as murder. See my quote from CA law above.

(Dec 05 '12 at 19:13) anthony anthony's gravatar image

That does strike me as a contradictory formulation. (It's hardly the only one to be found in current law.) But the question as written was about "punishing [the] attempted murder of unborn fetuses", and there's no contradiction between legal abortion and legal punishment of the attempted destruction of a fetus without the consent of the mother.

(Dec 05 '12 at 19:30) Kyle Haight ♦ Kyle%20Haight's gravatar image

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