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Julian Jaynes was a psychologist who, in the 1970s, argued that primitive man was not conscious/self-aware. By consciousness, from what I can gather, he meant "self-aware". He uses this hypothesis to explain where human beings first got the notion of "God" (and essentially, mysticism of all kinds, though I'm not sure the latter was his intention):

A quote from Wikipedia:

In psychology, bicameralism is a hypothesis which argues that the human brain once assumed a state known as a bicameral mind in which cognitive functions are divided between one part of the brain which appears to be "speaking", and a second part which listens and obeys.

The term was coined by psychologist Julian Jaynes, who presented the idea in his 1976 book The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind, wherein he made the case that a bicameral mentality, that is to say a mental state in which there are two distinct sections of consciousness, was the normal and ubiquitous state of the human mind as recently as 3000 years ago. He used governmental bicameralism to metaphorically describe such a state, in which the experiences and memories of the right hemisphere of the brain are transmitted to the left hemisphere via auditory hallucinations. This mental model was replaced by the conscious mode of thought, which Jaynes argues is grounded in the acquisition of metaphorical language....

...According to Jaynes, ancient people in the bicameral state would experience the world in a manner that has similarities to that of a modern-day schizophrenic. Rather than making conscious evaluations in novel or unexpected situations, the person would hallucinate a voice or "god" giving admonitory advice or commands, and obey these voices without question; one would not be at all conscious of one's own thought processes per se...

...In the late 1990s, Jaynes's ideas received renewed attention as brain imaging technology confirmed many of his early predictions.

I guess the question really is: Is it contradictory to say that man was, at one point, not self-aware or not able to introspect (RE: in the context of Jaynes' hypothesis)?

On one of Ayn Rand's Ford Hall Forum lectures, a questioner asked a similar question of Ayn Rand, but she was not able to answer it (she said she hadn't read the book that outlined the hypothesis).

asked Dec 21 '10 at 11:02

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I don't see how Jaynes' hypothesis could be taken to present difficulties for metaphysics or epistemology. Could you give examples of what problems you see?

(Dec 27 '10 at 00:20) Mindy Newton ♦ Mindy%20Newton's gravatar image

Mindy--well, I don't see any problems, but that's why I am asking. I know only the outline of the theory. The only thing that jumps out at me is the idea that man essentially invented consciousness as a sort of organization of the brain. However, I am largely ignorant of the finer details of the theory and was looking to someone who perhaps knew more than I on this subject.

(Dec 27 '10 at 12:51) David Lewis ♦ David%20Lewis's gravatar image

I found two Wikipedia articles on this topic, and the first appears to be the source of the excerpt cited in the question:

[1] "Bicameralism (psychology)"

[2] "Julian Jaynes"

Ref [2] fixes the date of a claimed transition from "bicameralism" to modern self-consciousness at around 1200 BC (i.e., roughly 3000 years ago), which would have been prior to the rise of ancient Greek culture. Yet this also seems too recent to have been a genetic adaptation in human evolution. If Jayne's theory is accurate, it must have been a behavioral adaptation. I could not clearly determine from the Wikipedia articles if Jaynes is arguing for a genetic adaptation or a bahavioral adaption, or if he even differentiates between the two at all. (I am not familiar with Jaynes' work; I'm commenting only on the Wikipedia descriptions.)

The foregoing is primarily a topic in the special sciences, not philosophy. Objectivism looks at man as he is today (and throughout history going back at least as far as the ancient Greeks) to identify man's fundamental metaphysical nature. If there actually was a major evolutionary development (whether genetic or behavioral) some 3000 years ago, it's primarily an issue for the special sciences to investigate, having little bearing on the issue of modern man's metaphysical nature. There were clearly many evolutionary developments in the history of man, dating back even farther than 3000 years ago. It is fascinating science but does not alter an objective philosopnhic understanding of modern man.

Philosophy also identifies epistemological standards for the special sciences. One aspect of Jaynes' theory that is philosophically dubious is the following, from ref. [1]:

Jaynes defines consciousness -- in the tradition of Locke and Descartes -- as "that which is introspectable." Jaynes draws a sharp distinction between consciousness ('introspectable mind-space') and other mental processes such as cognition, learning, and sense and perception -- which occur in all animals. [Brian McVeigh] argues that this distinction is frequently not recognized by those offering critiques of Jaynes' theory.

In Objectivism, any organism that has at least a sensory capacity is "conscious" to that extent. Objectivism would classify it as an error (epistemologically) to define "consciousness" so narrowly as to exclude a vast range of sensory-perceptual awareness. Objectivism also points out that ultimately "consciousness" cannot be defined at all, except ostensively; it is an axiomatic concept. "Awareness of reality" is about as close as one can ever come to a true definition of concsciousness, but even that approximation really amounts to little more than "consciousness is conscious" -- along with other axiomatic formulations such as "consciousness is conscious of something," "something exists which one perceives," and "that which exists is something, i.e., it is what it is."

answered Dec 29 '10 at 11:55

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